Posts by Nathan Natas

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Historian and former JW Jim Penton dies

by slimboyfat in

i don’t know a lot about james penton but i think he deserves a better thread than the one currently on offer.

james penton, who died recently, grew up in a jw family in canada and served as an elder.

unusually for a jw, he studied liberal arts at university and became a history professor.

Nathan Natas

Vanderhoven7 inquored, "Nathan,Are you feeling OK?"

I'll be OK; I get nauseous in the presence of creature worship. It is almost as nauseating as the worship of imaginary creatures.

How you doin'?

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JW WOMAN VOLUNTEER CRUSHED BY A WALL AT A KINGDOM HALL PROJECT

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/1skm8riz7qc?si=ww3ej9orl_91db4w.

the construction of a new jehovah’s witnesses kingdom hall in cybinka, poland, has once again shed light on the watchtower organization’s relentless drive to expand its real estate empire on the backs of unpaid, vulnerable volunteers.

every day, around 40 jehovah’s witnesses show up at the construction site, some traveling long distances, not for pay or proper protection, but to fulfill a sense of “spiritual duty” instilled by the organization.

Nathan Natas

Well, there's always the ressurrec... oh, NEVERMIND.

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Historian and former JW Jim Penton dies

by slimboyfat in

i don’t know a lot about james penton but i think he deserves a better thread than the one currently on offer.

james penton, who died recently, grew up in a jw family in canada and served as an elder.

unusually for a jw, he studied liberal arts at university and became a history professor.

Nathan Natas

Penton was one HELL of a guy! He was the messiah, y'know!

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Why do most Ex jW W‘s seem to be liberal?

by JaredScott-1977 in

i’m just curious about this dynamic i don’t care personally one way or the other but i do have friends who have chosen to be conservatives and they get totally destroyed on social media pages for their choice.

it’s almost like a lot of ex jw w become as toxic and his judgmental as jehovah’s witnesses themselves what’s up with that?

i also know conservative ex jw’s that can do the same so again i’m not leaning one way or the other i’m just noticing factual observations.

Nathan Natas

Not I.

"Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

By Crom!

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PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!

by Terry in

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friends

my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.

etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.

) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).

Nathan Natas

I think "Commie-La" is going to lose, BIG TIME. She has worked so hard - fabricating her history, wearing blackface, and Mistress of Word Salad - to earn this failure it would be wrong to deny it to her!

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Dr. James Penton - goin' up yonder dirt nap

by Nathan Natas in

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friends

i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.

"he was my friend" .

"there will never be another of his ilk".

Nathan Natas

Dear everyone,

Gorb asked it first:

2 days ago

Natas, what is your point?

My point is that not everyone thought as much of the Reverend Penton as he did of himself. I was not one of his fans. He had an "xtians only" worldview and enjoyed hiding behind firewalls where he could mock atheists without fear of rebuttal, because his chosen site was "xtians only". Some of you might remember that I tracked down and met with "Timothy White," who wrote "A eople For His Name" in 1968. Tim told me that Penton had plagarized part of Tim's book; Penton denied this. I believe Tim.

OK, Penton's books have helped people. But really it wasn't PENTON who helped them, it was the FACTS that helped people see the TRUTH. Remember that when Penton left the JWs he sought to gather his own flock unto him. FLOCK THAT! We are free human beings not followers of men!

If you had to choose a person who was most helpful to the XJW community, who would you choose: Professor Penton or the subdued and nearly anonymous Atlantis?

I put Penton in a class adjacent to Juan Pinecone (he whose name must not be spoken).

You needn't agree with me, but I'll bet Farkel would have.

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Dr. James Penton - goin' up yonder dirt nap

by Nathan Natas in

jw
friends

i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.

"he was my friend" .

"there will never be another of his ilk".

Nathan Natas

I saw a post on Reddit by "Big_Routine1112" announcing that James Penton died.

Well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.

As always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay WINS!

"He was my friend"

"There will never be another of his ilk"

"I have rent my outer garmets"

"I have soiled my inner garmets"

"O woe is me"

"Enoch, Elijah, Moses, and Penton; taken up in clouds"

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Atheist philosopher Philip Goff becomes a Christian

by slimboyfat in

philip goff, professor of philosophy at durham university, in the past few weeks has said that he has become a christian of a fairly liberal and perhaps somewhat heretical variety.

it’s been a long journey from staunch atheism in his teens, to questioning the basis of his atheism and a purely materialist conception of reality as a professor of philosophy specialising in consciousness, to now considering himself a christian.

he says it’s the result of coming to terms with the fact that atheists and theists both have good arguments and looking for a middle ground that accommodates the best arguments of both.

Nathan Natas

Here's what I think:

If he's the guy in the photo above, he is past the bloom og youthful manly vigor.

He's balding. What other personal tragedies has he recently experienced?

Weak men look for crutches when faced with adversity. A cross makes a fair crutch, even if it has some dude nailed to it.

I'm not influenced by weaklings. I'm 75 and have a big part of The Catalog Of Human Ills on my plate, but what you won't find on my plate is a piece of unleavened bread and a nice Chianti.

Rejoice, weak Xtians! Soon enough I'll be dead. So will you.

"Death comes UNEXPECTEDLY" -Rev. Paul Ford

https://youtu.be/XpUBKw6i538

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PROCLAMATORE CONSAPEVOLE

by wantingtruth in

proclamatore consapevole.

.....dai nostri frattelli italiani...... https://proclamatoreconsapevole2.blogspot.com/2024/10/adunanza-annuale-2024.html?showcomment=1728805024924#c657186278083234964.